Monday, March 31, 2008

 

Let's worry about Islamofascism

Let's worry about Islamofascism

The resolution adopted by Muslim theologians representing the various schools of Islam at the All-India Anti-terrorism Conference organised by Darul Uloom, Deoband, 'denouncing' terrorism but condoning radical Islam's ghastly excesses, apart from remaining silent on Islamist terrorism in India which continues to extract a terrible price, is of a piece with the Observatory Report on Islamophobia released by the Organisation of Islamic Conference at its recent meeting in Dakar, Senegal. Both documents seek to justify manufactured Muslim rage and lay the blame for the resultant death and destruction at the doors of everybody else but Muslims.

It is ironical that Darul Uloom, Deoband, should have taken it upon itself to preach to others the virtues of tolerance - Deobandis are known for neither tolerating others or their faith nor allowing Muslims the freedom to subscribe to modernism and its attendant values. Indeed, Deobandi madarsas at home and abroad, especially in Pakistan, are known to breed Islamofascists whose dark thoughts and darker deeds generate Islamophobia against which the OIC has demanded an international law. Of course, Islamofascism must remain unrestrained and Islamofascists must be allowed the right to practice their ideology of hate. To contest this would amount to Islamophobia, and Islamophobes, as we have now been told, have no right to exist. So, like the proverbial lamb, we should meekly surrender to our slaughter. The least we can do is believe the bogus declaration issued by mullahs who gathered at Darul Uloom, Deoband.



Here's a confession: There was a time of innocence when I believed in the thesis that there is more than one Islam. There were those with whom you could swap ideas, share jokes and even the cup that cheers. A decade later, during which time I spent three years in Cairo and travelled more than once into the heart of Islam - well, almost, since non-Muslims are not allowed beyond Jeddah, the gateway to Mecca and Medina - I stand converted to the view that any talk of there being a moderate Islam or Islam as a religion of peace merely because of the salutation sa'laam is so much bunkum.



In any event, the ummah sees Islam as a religion that demands absolute submission, which is not really the same as a religion that is predicated on peace and equality. And although the Quran does not stress on compulsion, it does not overflow with kindness towards those who do not submit to god's will either. The best they can hope for is to be protected by a treaty (dhimmah), which in this day and age would mean unlimited appeasement, and the privileges of the dhimmi are purchased by paying jiziya apart from humiliating conditions of subservience, for instance communal budgeting and a 'Muslim first' policy, as is being done in our country.



The manufactured rage over Pope Benedictine's comments at a German university about how the Sword of Islam cleared the way for Islam's march beyond Arabia - he was quoting from an obscure Byzantine text - revived memories of the late Aurobindo Ghosh (he spent his last years waging an intellectual battle against Islamofascism from his perch in Texas) and his painstaking research to prove that Islam and peace never co-existed; that the sword of Islam is as much a reality today as it was in the distant past. In a sense, he was right, as much as the Byzantine text the Pope quoted is correct in pitilessly stating a fact that we tend to overlook in our zeal to draw distinctions between moderate and fanatical Islam to cover up for the crimes of the latter more than anything else.

Indeed, India's history records this fact in the most lurid colours. The mass slaughter of Hindu men and enslavement of Hindu women and children, the destruction of Hindu antiquities and temples (of which the best examples are Somnath, Ayodhya, Kashi and Mathura), the brutal efforts to efface Hindu tradition and the rapacious means adopted to expand the frontiers of Islamic rule - Jadunath Sarkar and RC Majumdar have chronicled how Muslim invaders, and later those who sat on the masnad of Delhi, were relentlessly engaged in waging jihad against Hindus - are too well-known to require elaboration.

The bloodletting in Jammu & Kashmir, the ethnic cleansing of the Valley to lay the foundation of Nizam-e-Mustafa, the bombings in Mumbai and elsewhere, the persecution of Hindus in Bangladesh and Malaysia by preachers of fanatical Islam who have now come to dominate the centrestage of politics in those countries and the pathetic, craven approach of accommodation and concession adopted by the political class of India which was, and continues to be, reluctant to confront the truth, should fashion any honest critique of Islamism and highlight its fascist character. This is not about indulging in Islamophobia, which so agitates the OIC and its cheerleaders, but about coming to grips with the true dimensions of Islamofascism, which should be of over-riding concern for those who believe in freedom and cherish the values of modernism that collectively form the foundation of free and plural societies.

Yes, there will be strident criticism and staunch opposition to any attempt to expose Islamofascism for what it is. And the most strident criticism and the staunchest opposition will not come from the OIC and the mullahs of Darul Uloom, Deoband, but from those who wilfully ignore facts to foist fiction which encourages bigoted hate mongers to typecast those who are appalled by Islamofascism as Islamophobes. The protest will primarily come from two quarters:



  • The Lib-Left intelligentsia, which continues to labour under the self-perpetuating myth that all of Islam is a religion of peace and only an insignificant, fringe minority is to be blamed for distorting the great faith that was born in the sterile sands of Arabia; and,


  • The so-called moderate Muslims who till now have skilfully used doublespeak to position themselves as representatives of the ummah, more so in liberal democracies. Their status is now seriously threatened by those who have no hesitation in acknowledging the true nature of Islam both as a faith and a weapon of subjugation.


    Those who believe in liberty and freedom of thought need not fear either. Being charged with Islamophobia is a small price to pay for securing our future.


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    Thursday, August 09, 2007

     

    To the Islamists of CAIR: How dare you exploit Americans' tolerance to your fascism!?

    To the Islamists of CAIR: How dare you exploit Americans' tolerance to your fascism?


    Each now & then we are hit by another of a CAIR stunt, be it defending the flying Imams that were chanting pro Bin Laden slogans, or catagorizing as "hate" an enraged understandable student in Pace university [regardless if one agrees with his particular expression of: flushing the Quran down the toilet] over Islamists' actions against showing the 'Obsession' movie - that exposes Islamofascism & world Jihad.


    The Islamists know us all too well, they know how Christian/Jews in America are so sensitive to human rights, to equality & to freedom, values that they never see in their dark Arab Muslim world.


    If you follow CAIR's actions, you see the pattern of playing on Americans' kindness, so typically of Islamists as they are, their tactics are simple but cruel, make Americans feel bad so they will have to go that extra mile towards Muslims, take the 'flying Imams' case for example, don't they just love using the assumption of "innocent until proven guilty" on the expense of our vital security when it's a matter of life and death?

    Well, of course this legal term still holds value in court, but if it really comes down to survival should anyone blink an eye when one hears "devout" Muslims praising Al Qaeda? I mean, how "innocent" can such "holy" imams be?


    Their immediate goal: empower all Muslims including radicals!

    Their long term goal, well, if you know what Caliphate, global domination & Islamization means, then you have the answer.



    Let alone the enormous hypocrisy that these supporters of champions in hatred of non Muslims [like the MSA & pro-genocide fascist Hamas] are the ones that try to define the Pace university incident as a 'hate crime'.



    Still, we can never figure out any basis on which a "moderate" status has been mistakenly attached to them by some, after all, their support for radical Jihadism like terror organizations such as: Hamas is all documented.




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    Counterterrorism Blog, NJ - Jul 12, 2007

    By Aaron Mannes Allow me to add a few notes (and a graph) to the many excellent previous posts on Hamas, CAIR, and the Muslim Brotherhood in the United ...

    http://counterterrorismblog.org/2007/07/cair_hamas_implications_and_an.php

     

    Is this Really a Hate Crime

    Family Security Matters, NJ - 15 hours ago

    PC liberals kowtow to anything Muslim because they are both scared of Muslim groups like CAIR http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/challenges.php?id=1220657


    Brooklyn's Khalil Gibran Madrassah Will Function As Jihad ...

    PipeLineNews.org, CA - 3 hours ago

    CAIR is the Council on American Islamic Relations, a Saudi funded, Hamas front group which was recently named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy ...

    http://www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=kgiaexec8607.htm

     

    CAIR Executive Director Placed at HAMAS Meeting

    Counterterrorism Blog, NJ - Aug 2, 2007

    ... of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Nihad Awad, participated in a three-day summit of US-based HAMAS members and supporters in 1993. ...

    http://counterterrorismblog.org/2007/08/cair_executive_director_placed_1.php

     

    What is CAIR?

    Power Line, MN - Jul 18, 2007

    Most recently, Aaron Mannes elaborated on CAIR's Hamas connection in "CAIR and Hamas: Implications and an illustration." In fact, in the words of Anti-CAIR, ...

    http://powerlineblog.com/archives/018270.php

     

    Getting to know NIhad Awad

    Power Line, MN - Aug 5, 2007

    CAIR is the Council on American-Islamic Relations. It holds itself out as a civil rights group. Yet it is the successor to a defunct Hamas front group...

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2007/08/018128.php

     

    CAIR They Go Again!

    Town Hall, DC - Aug 2, 2007

    Never has CAIR condemned by name Islamic terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbollah. Given the opportunity to condemn Hamas by Newsweek last December, ...

    http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/JoelMowbray/2007/08/03/cair_they_go_again!


    An Insider's View of the Holy Land Foundation Trial

    CA - Jul 18, 2007

    By Nicholas Van Zandt The future of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Islamic Society of North America and the North American Islamic ...

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=29218

     

    View From America: Flying imams & Reichstag analogies

    Jerusalem Post, Israel - Jul 28, 2007

    ... protection against frivolous lawsuits by the Islamist race-baiters at CAIR, whose roots as a support group for Hamas betray their own extremist agenda. ...

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1185379025684&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


    Hamas Goes 'on Trial' in Texas in Case Over Muslim Charity

    New York Sun, NY - Jul 15, 2007

    The Council on American-Islamic Relations has ample reason to be concerned about the Holy Land case: Elashi was a founder of CAIR's Texas chapter. ...

    http://www.nysun.com/article/58442


    Doctors of Death

    AINA, CA - Jul 9, 2007

    Council of American Islamic Relations (CAIR) Ohio chapter board chair Dr. Mobin-Uddin in her deceitful and treacly apologetic, "Betrayal of Our Faith",

    http://www.aina.org/news/2007079124647.htm


    Feds name CAIR in plot to fund Hamas.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56009


    Florida vs. Radical Islam -Articles & Updates: CAIR vs. Christian ...Ahmed Bedier, a spokesman for CAIR which is a Saudi funded front group for Hamas, .... MIM: CAIR FL cries victim on Hannity and Colmes ...

    http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/433 


    Digg - Hannity's Guest Admits Flying Imams Were in Danger on U. S. ...Hannity's Guest Admits Flying Imams Were in Danger on U. S. Airways Plane. The Flying Imams, not to be confused with the acclaimed 60's lounge act...

    http://digg.com/politics/Hannity_s_Guest_Admits_Flying_Imams_Were_in_Danger_on_U_S_Airways_Plane


    Video: Flying imams stunt may have been ...The Flying Imams sounds like a great name for a circus act. .... The goal of the Flying Imams is to desensitize us to suspicious behavior. ..

    http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/25/video-flying-imams-stunt-may-have-been-set-up-to-provoke-lawsuit-says-peter-king/


    'Flying Imams' Case Tests Limits of Religious Tolerance

    http://www.hannity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245706


    Pajamas Media: THE FAKING IMAMS -- Pajamas Media Exclusive: Police ...The Now Notorious Flying Imams Claim Their Only Crime Was “Flying While Muslim,” But Our Exclusive Reporting Reveals They Are Trying to Sweep Their Real ...

    http://pajamasmedia.com/2006/12/the_faking_imams_pajamas_media.php


    How The 'Praying Imams' Terrorized US Airways Flight 300 To ...And interestingly, there is a Keith Ellison connection to the flying imams. Again, as is usually the case, CAIR and its friends have misled us...

    http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2006/11/how_the_praying.php 


    Pace University Mind-Crime Update « TMQ2 Phil... has personal experience with the pressure tactics of the Muslim Student Association at Pace University: Hate Crime Arrest for Desecration of ...

    http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/pace-university-mind-crime-update/ 


    Pace University Koran Case - Email from Defendant « Foehammer ...Man arrested for hate crime for Qur’an desecration... Movie Screening ‘Obsession’: Islamo-Fascism Awareness Day...

    http://foehammer.net/2007/07/lgf-pace-university-koran-case-email-from-defendant.html


    Flush the Qur'an (Koran) « TMQ2 Video: Hitchens clashes with CAIR’s Ibrahim Hooper over Pace Qur’an ... In protest of the Pace University student being prosecuted for tossing two Qur’ans ...

    http://tmq2.wordpress.com/tag/schools/pace-universty/flush-the-quran-koran/ 


    Pace’s Obsession with Spin [plus on 'Muslim Students Association's hate & antisemitism]

    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/homeland.php?id=638182



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    More background on CAIR:


    CAIR: 'Moderate' friends of terror - article by Daniel Pipes In reality, CAIR is something quite different. For starters, it's on the wrong side in the war on terrorism. One indication came in October 1998, ...

    http://www.danielpipes.org/article/394


    *Anti-CAIR* Defending America from The Council on American-Islamic ...We will continue to expose CAIR's involvement in supporting Islamist terrorists, terrorist-sponsoring organizations and groups in the United States. ...

    http://www.anti-cair-net.org/



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    More on that awful group 'Muslim Student Association' (MSA)


    Townhall.com::The Film P.B.S. Doesn't Want you to See::By Frank J ...Islamists: Voices from the Muslim Center," was selected through the competitive process ... infrastructure in America: the Muslim Student Association (MSA). ...

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/FrankJGaffneyJr/2007/04/11/the_film_pbs_doesnt_want_you_to_see 


    The Jawa Report: USC (& other colleges) to Air "Obsession: Radical ...Remember, until recently USC's Muslim Student Association hosted wanted al Qaeda ... Info on the event called "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Day" and the 70 ...

    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/187387.php


    Washington Re-labels Islamic Terrorism as Islamo-Fascism? :: Faith ...Muslim Students Association of USA and Canada Mohamed Sheibani ... Is re-labeling radical Islam as Islamo-fascism purely a political ploy by Washington? ...

    http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=638 


    Accuracy In Academia -- The Muslim Student Association: Coming In ...The Muslim Student Association: Coming In Peace? By Malcolm A. Kline ... the government has identified as having a significant problem with terrorism." ...

    http://www.academia.org/campus_reports/2004/arc_msa.html


    muslim students association UCLA Sponsors of Terrorism By  The Muslim Student Association: A Wahhabi Front By

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6175


    Butcher Enablers

    The Muslim Students’ Association....

    http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-schwartz031003.asp


    Islamism's Campus Club: The Muslim Students' Association - Middle ...We come before you today on behalf of the Muslim Student Association at USF ... has once again been unfurled by the U.S. military in this War on Terrorism … ...

    http://www.meforum.org/article/603


    Extremism on Campus, Muslims Students Association « Christian ...Although the Muslim Students’ Association (MSA) may present itself as a non-political and benevolent student religious groupDuring the past several years, operating both on campus and off, some chapters of the MSA have acted in collaboration with a number of Islamic groups and individuals.  The MSA organizes events featuring militant speakers, so-sponsor events and conferences with radical Islamic groups, and co-sponsor fundraisers for killers and Islamic radicals.  In addition, they use their publication, Al-Talib, to disseminate their often radical, anti-Semitic, anti-Israel views.


    Notwithstanding the damning nature of these facts, it would seem prudent to treat these MSA branches with some consideration by campus and community activists.  By its own description, the group is dedicated to Islamic societies on college campuses in Canada and the U.S.  They advocate orthodox Islam and are involved in social activities, such as fundraisers for the homeless during Ramadan and other worthwhile projects.  MSA is an umbrella organization in which many Muslim students become involved, without necessarily advocating it extremism.

    .... threat to the United States, especially with terrorism escalating abroad. ...

    http://christianactionnetwork.wordpress.com/2007/07/24/extremism-on-campus-muslims-students-association/


    Fascism at UC Berkeley: Muslim Student Association Disrupts Daniel ...Indeed, the Muslim Student Association (MSA) was out in full force on Tuesday, ... He managed to deliver his lecture, which covered the War on Terrorism, ...

    http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/999




     

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    Friday, August 03, 2007

     

    CAIR Executive Director Placed at HAMAS Meeting

    CAIR Executive Director Placed at HAMAS Meeting

    Counterterrorism Blog ^ | August 2, 2007 | The Investigative Project on Terrorism
    http://counterterrorismblog.org/2007/08/cair_executive_director_placed.php

    By The Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT)


    http://www.investigativeproject.org/Awad_Checked.pdfThe executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Nihad Awad, participated in a three-day summit of U.S.-based HAMAS members and supporters in 1993.

    Until now, he had been identified only as Nihad LNU (last name unknown) in FBI reports and analyses. The meeting occurred in a Philadelphia hotel in the wake of a White House ceremony formalizing the Oslo Accords, a peace deal with the potential to end the decades-old conflict between Israelis and Palestinians.

    CAIR, which touts itself as America’s premier Muslim civil rights organization, was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the terror support trial of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development and five of its officials. Omar Ahmad, who founded CAIR with Awad in 1994 and was previously identified as attending the Philadelphia meeting, also was named as an unindicted co-conspirator.

    The FBI already had wiretap warrants on several people who wound up organizing the 1993 meeting and agents listened in on the meeting itself. They concluded the two-dozen men present were HAMAS members or supporters. Transcripts and FBI analyses released since then show the meeting sought a strategy to kill the peace accord, which threatened to marginalize the Islamist movement. The group also discussed ways to improve HAMAS fundraising in America.

    According to FBI reports, the men tried to hide their true agenda, agreeing not to even say the word “HAMAS” - but to call it “SAMAH” its reverse - even in their private conversations. Most of the participants were identified through surveillance and an examination of the hotel registry. But until Thursday, the identity of one person at the meeting – Nihad LNU - remained a mystery.

    Awad was asked about the meeting during a 2003 deposition for a civil lawsuit. He initially said he didn't think he had attended the Philadelphia meeting. When pushed he replied, "I don't remember." Nor did he remember whether he was invited.

    Previously available evidence shows Awad was at the 1993 HAMAS meeting. He can be seen on videotape the following summer, acknowledging “I am in support of the HAMAS movement” during a seminar at Miami’s Barry University.

    The idea for the meeting was discussed in a telephone call recorded by the FBI on Sept. 14, 1993. A day earlier, Yasser Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin shared an uneasy handshake on the White House lawn. That paved the way for the Palestinian Authority’s creation, and, it was hoped at the time, a path toward a more peaceful future.

    On the telephone, three men discussed who should be invited to join them in a meeting to discuss what to do next. The call included Omar Ahmad (CAIR’s chairman emeritus), who at the time served at President of the Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP), Shukri Abu Baker, President of the Holy Land Foundation and one of the defendants now on trial, and Abdelhaleem al-Ashqar, the Executive Director of a HAMAS-linked charity known as the Al Aqsa Educational Fund.

    They discussed inviting people from the “Union,” a code reference to the IAP. They mentioned “Akram,” “Abdul Rahman” and “Nihad.” In 1993, Nihad Awad was the spokesman and public relations director for the IAP.

    During that same telephone conversation, the men on the telephone call referred to Nihad's work in "media." Shukri Abu Bakr mentioned "a full article in Dallas Morning News...and every few lines: Mr. Nihad said this and that...." The Dallas Morning News did publish an article that day. It ran under the headline "Dallas' Mideast Observers Warn of Conflict Ahead." It extensively quoted "Nihad Awad, spokesman for the Dallas-based Islamic Association of Palestine."

    A few weeks later, at the Philadelphia meeting itself, two men again referenced "Nihad" and an invitation he received to speak at a conference for the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA) on October 30, 1993. The program from that NAAA Annual Convention, obtained by the IPT, lists the name of Nihad Awad, representing the Islamic Association for Palestine, as a speaker on a panel entitled "Israel-PLO Agreement: Analytical Perspectives." Nobody else named Nihad is listed in the program.

    An exhibit found in the home of Abdelhaleem Al-Ashqar detailed sessions which were to take place at the Philadelphia meeting. Under the politics and media session,"Nihad" was scheduled to give a presentation. FBI Special Agent Laura Burns testified on Thursday that the "Nihad" listed was Nihad Awad.

    Transcripts released in U.S. v. Marzook et. al. confirmed that "Nihad LNU" spoke at the Philadelphia meeting. He mentioned the NAAA invitation and said that the IAP had received additional attention following an appearance on CNN.

    A search of CNN transcripts shows that a representative of the IAP did appear on CNN's Crossfire, September 10, 1993. That representative was Nihad Awad.

    Finally, "Nihad" speaks in the first person confirming his intent to attend and speak at the NAAA convention. He is asked if "this paper contains what you are going to say." "Nihad" replied "I will speak about the media aspect....”

    CAIR officials, including Awad, have refused to condemn HAMAS by name after it engages in a bombing attack. Awad once called it “the game of the pro-Israel lobby.”

    The Holy Land Foundation trial resumes Monday where more details about the Philadelphia meeting are expected to come out.



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    Sunday, July 29, 2007

     

    Major concerns in US, over proipsed US aid of $20 billion dollars to "friendly" Arabs

    Major concerns in US, over proipsed US aid of $20 billion dollars to "friendly" Arabs

    Today, Sunday, On CNN's LateEdition, Both Rep. Charlie Rangel & D-New York
    Rep. Charles Shays, R-Connecticut, where voicing concerns against proposed US aid in $20 bn. to Saudi Artabia.

    Charlie Rangel: 'They have not been our friends, it includes Arab nations such as: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, as well, and Israel should be nuts to agree to that "deal"'.

    http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/late.edition/index.html


    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/le.html

    If anyone would have asked my humble opinion, in case we would have to concede to such a deal... at least put the "Stop teaching little kids that non Muslims are Apes and Pigs", as the first condition.



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    Monday, July 09, 2007

     
    UK Muslims: Not in their name?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=FMZLGUBGOWWNBQFIQMFSFFOAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/07/08/nrmuslim108.xml&page=1

    UK Telegraph July 08 2007 Alasdair Palmer


    Muslims were as much outraged by last weekend's failed car bomb attacks as the rest of the country. Does that mean they will now help the authorities to root out Islamist terrorists? Alasdair Palmer investigates

    The statement from Muhammed Abdul Bari, the general secretary of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) was as surprising as it was unequivocal: "The police and the security services deserve the fullest support and co-operation from each and every sector of our society, including all Muslims."

    It was a surprise because, in the past, the MCB has seemed to be somewhat lukewarm about encouraging British Muslims to go to the police or security services with any suspicions they might have about friends or acquaintances who they think might be involved in terrorism. It is, after all, only nine months since Mr Bari issued a scarcely veiled threat to the authorities: he said that if the Government and "some police officers and sections of the media" continued to "demonise Muslims… Britain will have to deal with two million Muslim terrorists, 700,000 of them in London".

    Last week, the MCB was considerably more conciliatory. Inayat Bunglawala, Mr Bari's deputy, accepted that the MCB was taking a new stance in insisting that it was an "Islamic duty" to help the police prevent terrorism, but he said he was confident that the organisation's 400 affiliates would back it. "The overwhelming majority of Muslims," he said, "will understand the predicament our nation is in."

    Will they? The Government and most of Britain hope that the failed attempts to blow up a nightclub in central London and the passenger terminal at Glasgow airport may mark the beginning of a sea-change in attitudes to terrorism within Britain's Islamic communities. Yesterday's march in Glasgow was an attempt to demonstrate solidarity between Muslims and other religions in their opposition to violence. A group named "Islam is Peace" placed full-page advertisements in several national newspapers emphasising that "Muslim communities across Britain are united in condemning the attempted bombings".

    The police say that a change of attitude is badly needed. Peter Clarke, Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist chief, has publicly lamented the reluctance of too many Muslims to come forward with information about possible terrorism that they have, and that could help the police to prevent bombings. MI5 officers have a similar complaint. One, speaking on condition of anonymity, told The Sunday Telegraph: "Perhaps our biggest problem is that when we start trying to get sources, very quickly we hit a wall… people who live with actual or potential terrorists, who know what they are doing, who know who is vulnerable to extremist propaganda, who know who is being dragged in or acting suspiciously; the people who have this information just won't share it. It makes the job of finding out what is going on, and stopping it, much harder."

    Muslim police officers are in very short supply. There are about a million Muslims in London, but only 268 of them have joined the Metropolitan Police. They represent less than 1 per cent of the total force. It is the same story across the country. Attempts to encourage more Muslims to sign up can backfire: there are allegations, for instance, that several al-Qaeda sympathisers have entered the organisation with the intention of undermining it.

    Still, a number of leading British Muslims have already stated that the change of tone that has marked Gordon Brown's premiership is "helpful" in gaining the support of Muslim communities in Britain. Ahmed Versi, the editor of Muslim News, for instance, remarked last week that "Tony Blair used to use the phrase 'Islamic terrorism' …it made the whole [Islamic] community feel they were being targeted."

    Mr Versi is pleased that Gordon Brown seems to have decided to drop "Islamic terrorism", the "war on terror" and the other belligerent phrases that came to characterise Tony Blair's time in office. Jacqui Smith, the new Home Secretary, insisted last week that it was "unacceptable to hold any one community responsible" for the attempted outrages, something Mr Versi very much agrees with, because, in his view, what motivates the terrorists is not Islam: it is British foreign policy.

    Not everyone, however, believes either that attitudes in Britain's Islamic communities are changing, or that Gordon Brown's change of the language he uses to describe bomb attacks will make much difference. Ed Husain was drawn to what he calls "Islamism": the anti-secular, anti-liberal position that asserts that Western democracies such as Britain are irredeemably corrupt and must be replaced by a theocracy based on Islamic law. He spent several years working for Hizb ut-Tahrir, an extremist organisation dedicated to that goal, before eventually turning away from it and discovering what he now thinks of as orthodox, traditional Islam.

    "The MCB's insistence that there is a duty to help the police is very welcome," he says. "The trouble is, they are still wedded to a version of Islam that is, at the very least, hospitable to the extremists. None of the leading members of the MCB have condemned the hard-line anti-Western ideology of figures such as Syed Qutb, the Egyptian radical fundamentalist who developed, in the early Sixties, the theological justification for violence in the name of establishing an Islamic state (Qutb was executed by the Egyptian government in 1965). It would be a very powerful signal if the MCB said that Qutb's hatred of the West and of democracy, and his endorsement of violence as the means to replace secular government with theocracy, had no Koranic justification. But no one from the MCB seems willing to make that move."

    The MCB has also failed to condemn suicide bombing by Hamas against Israel. "It is a very short step from accepting that there is a theological justification for 'martyrdom' operations in Israel," states Mr Husain, "to accepting that there is a justification for perpetrating the murder of civilians here. I know. I have been down that road."

    Hassan Butt is another who spent several years as an extreme Islamist before coming to understand that the people with whom he was working were "evil". Mr Butt used to act as a fund raiser - he says he raised more than £150,000 - for fundamentalist terrorist groups. He doesn't see any change in attitude among their members. His family have rejected him for what they see as his "treachery". His friends have all deserted him. Some of his former colleagues have openly told him that they want him dead. Earlier this year he was stabbed in the street for his "betrayal". Last week, the windows of his house were broken, and his front door smashed, as a further attempt to intimidate him.

    He believes that the moderate Muslim community is "in denial" about the extremists in its midst. According to Mr Butt, many imams who preach at mosques in Britain "refuse to broach the difficult and often complex truth that Islam can be interpreted as condoning violence against the unbeliever, and instead repeat the mantra that 'Islam is peace', and hope that all of this debate will go away. This has left the territory open for radicals… I know, because [when] I was a recruiter, I repeatedly came across those who had tried to raise these issues with mosque authorities, only to be banned from their grounds. Every time this happened… it served as a recruiting sergeant for extremism."

    It is certainly true that many imams in Britain are very conservative. Almost all are Sunni Muslims, rather than the Shia variety, and have little or no appeal to the younger generation of Muslims - the generation from whom the terrorists are recruited. A study by Prof Ron Geaves of the University of Chester, published last week, found that the majority of imams preaching here were born and trained outside Britain, and many don't even speak English. Their sermons are frequently in Urdu, which most British Muslims born here do not fully understand. It means that debates fundamental to demonstrating the message that "Islam is peace" and does not condone violence cannot be had inside mosques.

    "And that is a huge problem," says Ed Husain. "One of the main reasons I was recruited to Islamism was because I was ignorant. Like most Muslims born in Britain, I knew nothing of Islamic traditions and I couldn't read Arabic. The extremists had the field to themselves. There was nothing to counteract their very narrow, perverted interpretation of Islam.

    "I believe that one of the most important things that could be done to diminish the attraction of Islamism would be to expose young Muslims to the full variety of Islamic scholarship and debate. At the moment, a lot of them are turned off by the local mosque: they think it's boring. The extremists are 'cool'. But that's because no one actually confronts them properly. I had to go to the Middle East to get a proper Islamic education. It's not available in most of Britain's mosques - and that leads to extremist voices being very tempting to young Muslims who are looking for a form of Islam that they think is authentic."

    It is not only in mosques that misguided policies allow radical Islamists to flourish. Some British universities have also failed to combat their presence and influence effectively. Two of the July 7 suicide bombers studied at Leeds Metropolitan University, for example. Waheed Zaman, awaiting trial on charges arising from last year's alleged plot to blow up passenger jets over the Atlantic, was a bio-medical student and president of the Islamic Society at London Metropolitan University.

    Dhiren Barot, jailed last year for 40 years for plotting terrorist attacks, studied at Brunel University in London, as did Jawad Akbar, who was sentenced to life for trying to blow up the Bluewater shopping centre in Kent and the Ministry of Sound nightclub in London.

    And yet, when the Government issued guidelines for tackling campus extremism, which included ways of identifying and tackling extremist behaviour, those guidelines were unanimously rejected by Universities UK, and the Universities and College Union, the umbrella organisations for Britain's universities. Teaching and administrative staff insisted they would not apply them.

    "A monumental act of irresponsibility," is how Prof Anthony Glees, the director of Brunel University's Centre for Intelligence and Security Studies, describes it. "The problem [of extremism on British campuses] is widespread and underestimated," Prof Glees says. He believes that universities will "come to regret" their "mindless rejection" of the Government's guidelines. "It sends out a signal to people who want to do us harm that universities will continue to be a safe bet from which to recruit: that they are safe areas for extremists to ply their trade. Academics are in a state of complete denial and confusion over what they should be doing; this a huge hindrance to tackling the problem."

    While the problem of extremism in universities badly needs to be confronted, many believe that the seeds of fundamentalist terrorism lie at much earlier points in a Muslim boy or girl's education. "The result of 25 years of multiculturalism has not been multicultural communities. It has been mono-cultural communities," says Ed Husain. "Islamic communities are segregated. Many Muslims want to live apart from mainstream British society; official government policy has helped them do so. I grew up without any white friends. My school was almost entirely Muslim. I had almost no direct experience of 'British life' or 'British institutions'. So it was easy for the extremists to say to me: 'You see? You're not part of British society. You never will be. You can only be part of an Islamic society.' The first part of what they said was true. I wasn't part of British society: nothing in my life overlapped with it."

    Patrick Sookdeo, the director of the Institute for the Study of Islam and Christianity, converted to Christianity from Islam. He is convinced that Islamic "separatism" is at the heart of the problem. "The Islamic community," he says, "is evolving as a separate entity within the UK. We are facing a form of apartheid."

    It is certainly true that there are plenty of Muslims who say they would like to be able to live under a separate legal system, obeying sharia law rather than the secular laws passed by Parliament. Ibrahim Mogra, the chairman of the MCB's inter-faith relations committee, says: "I am in the business of helping everyone live according to sharia… Most Muslims try to live according to sharia. The Government should consider whether it is necessary to make changes to the law to recognise sharia".

    The fanatics, of course, go one further step: they say they are entitled, indeed required by divine law, to use violence to ensure that Britain becomes an Islamic republic under sharia law. The problem is preventing seepage from the moderate Islamic position, where sharia is only an aspiration, not a requirement. "But that can require Muslims to recognise that religion has to be separated from politics," says Shiv Malik, who investigated the life of Mohammad Siddique Khan, the July 7 bomber, and his background in Leeds for nearly a year. "It requires recognising that we live in a secular state, where religion is not what decides fundamental questions of law. But if you see the Koran as the word of God, as most Muslims do, that can be very difficult, because the Koran specifies all kinds of laws for family, social and political life. One example is the Koranic punishment for theft: cutting off the hand of the thief. No modern state would think that anything other than barbaric and inhumane. But theologically, Muslim fundamentalists are committed to trying to achieve a state that implements it."

    Still, Hassan Butt sees grounds for optimism, as does Ed Husain. They both believe that the fanatics can be defeated. "But for that to happen, Muslims in Britain have to wake up to the fact that they have a problem with extremism," says Ed Husain. "Too many Muslims leaders look for explanations outside their own communities. They blame British foreign policy, or social deprivation, or unemployment, or poverty. They don't blame the perverted versions of Islam that their inactivity has allowed to flourish."

    Mohammed Naseem, chairman of the Birmingham Central Mosque (it is affiliated to the MCB), exemplifies Mr Husain's point. He insists that there is "no proof" that Islamic extremists were behind any of the terrorist attacks. "The official explanation of 7/7 does not make sense," Mr Naseem says. "The majority of Muslims don't accept the version that we've been presented with [by the Government]. Videos can be made and the pictures of people on train platforms don't prove anything. Why should we condemn Muslim extremists when we don't know who did it?"

    Polls reveal that 6 per cent of Muslims believe that on balance, the attacks of July 7, 2005 were justified, and 5 per cent think there is a Koranic justification for them. As Ed Husain and Hassan Butt note: solidarity marches and press advertisements assuring us that "Islam is Peace" will make no difference at all to the threat we face until those numbers reduce significantly.

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